ďťżAmy Oliphant 00:00
When I did my therapy, it's like, it just really opened my eyes to Oh yeah. When you start getting honest about things, and you stop hiding things, that's where I believe you can be the most confident. I always say like, confidence always revolves around the truth. So if you're constantly faking it, guess what confidence can't live there.
Lindsey 00:18
Welcome to the Mindset Coach Academy Podcast. I'm Lindsey Wilson. And I am a high-performance mindset coach, a mom, a former professional athlete, and an entrepreneur. I help coaches and high performers optimize their mindset to improve their coaching their performance and those of their athletes and their lives. Here, you'll learn all about mindset, how to live it, how to teach it, and how to sell it.
Lindsey 00:55
Hi guys, and welcome back to the Mindset Coaching Academy podcast today we have our mindset coach Academy students, Amy Oliphant and Nikki Dieball. Hi, guys.
Amy Oliphant 01:05
Hey!
Lindsey 01:06
Hi, I'm so excited to have you guys on today. We've been trying to do this podcast for a while. But today, we're gonna be talking about what it's really like to be a mindset coach, you know, we're launching the certification coming up soon. And you guys have interesting stories, you have interesting lives.
Lindsey 01:20
And I think seeing sort of behind the curtain, what it's like, on a day-to-day basis, with kids and adult responsibilities and jobs and coaching, what it's like to actually be a mindset coach. So I want to dive right into it. Are you guys ready?
Amy Oliphant 01:34
Yeah, let's do it.
Lindsey 01:35
All right, cool. I want to give just a little snapshot of where you guys are now in just a couple sentences. You know, what do you do who you work with? And let's do a little bit about yourself in a couple sentences. Amy, will you go first, please?
Amy Oliphant 01:48
Yeah. So currently, I My business is transcend mental training. started it. It's going on almost four years now. Mainly working with swimmers and hockey players, and mostly one on one. But getting ready to launch into group training and some other fun stuff that I've got in the works.
Lindsey 02:12
Yes, you are. Nikki, what about you?
Nikki Dieball 02:15
Hi, I'm Nikki, and I'm the Associate Head volleyball coach at Southern Nazarene University. I also own a club volleyball program here in the state of Oklahoma, we've got seven teams. So my work is pretty broad. So I work with both college and Club Kids, high school kids.
Nikki Dieball 02:34
And then I also have my individual clients. And so my business is slightly on a smaller scale with the individual. I do a lot of team stuff, but it's kind of just growing and evolving a little bit more every day.
Lindsey 02:48
Well, you got your hands full with that two-month-old, so. We'll get into that the life balance and being a mindset coach and what that looks like. Okay, Amy.
Lindsey 02:56
So I always like to, we've talked about business before on the podcast and webinars, that kind of thing. I always like to start where you're at. And then I'd like to sort of like, rewind, right? For those of you that remember VCRs like, back to, right before you decided to become a mindset coach that the certification was part of that too.
Lindsey 03:17
But like, what were you doing when you were like, Huh, I wonder if I can do this, and was that at the same point did you realize that you can make money at it like talk to me a little bit about that evolution? I don't know if it was four years ago or maybe was looking further along than that.
Amy Oliphant 03:34
No, so I think all my life I've been a coach so Coach, I just either coaching tennis or coaching swimming my niche as a coach, I like to say my niche as a coach was always the mindset and the mental performance piece.
Amy Oliphant 03:49
I always I think a lot of people that go into mental performance are those that struggled with it themselves as athletes and I was definitely one of those so as a coach, I kind of always made it my mission to focus on that piece with the athletes that crossed my path.
Amy Oliphant 04:09
So I was just a sponge as a coach like always online looking for, any information I could get on how I could help my athletes with their mindset, and decided I must have come across you on Instagram. I don't even remember to be honest. I just was like, I felt a connection to what you were saying.
Amy Oliphant 04:34
And I think it was about that time you were getting ready to launch your first certification program and I was really just doing it to improve myself as a coach. I never even it wasn't even on my radar to start my own business and do it and I kind of start talking to you and made the jump to do it.
Amy Oliphant 04:57
And I think I I'm almost sure it was you at some point was like, you know, you should think about just trying to start your own business and make some money with this and doing something more than just coaching. And I liked the idea of it, it scared me. But I'd like the idea of it and kind of jumped in from there. From that point on.
Amy Oliphant 05:18
And it's still, it's still evolving, and it's still a journey, but in a good way.
Lindsey 05:18
Yeah. And do you mind sharing? Like, I mean, do you? I don't know, if you remember, like, you know, if you're getting that down to the money like you're doing this essentially full time, or at least this is your job.
Lindsey 05:34
You're in a little bit of a different situation. But do you remember how long it took for you to make your investment back? Like, do you remember? Like, like, what's your revenue now? Roughly like, where are you at? What are you charging? If you could share any of that, that you're comfortable with? That'd be awesome.
Amy Oliphant 05:50
Yeah, no. Yo, as I was just getting my feet wet, it took me probably longer than it should have to make my money back, like in all honesty, but that really is like, was all on me, it was me like not being sure if that's what I wanted to do, trying to find the niche, trying to find the right price point.
Amy Oliphant 06:12
It was a lot of me getting my mind wrapped around. And well. And that's where you and Academy really help a lot too, is wrapping your mind around that whole concept. So I would say that for me. And then I had a couple of like, life, things that just happened that I can control.
Amy Oliphant 06:31
So it was probably for me like two years until I made my money back. But then once I was able to get all get my head in the right spot, get like those life things behind me and really focus 100% on the business, then it was like, it was probably another six months after that. I had more one-on-one clients than I could handle.
Amy Oliphant 06:58
And we're still in that spot right now. So and I'm at a point now where I'm ready to scale. So I'd say probably, I probably made total about 50 grand. I actually, it should be more like and it can be more. And that's all on me. But I think you know, if you have the right mindset, and you're you just jump into it and kind of run towards that fear. The possibilities are limitless, for sure.
Lindsey 07:33
Well, yeah, I think you're I remember, like, when you sort of just I think you for a while you were just sort of like I want to take this to my athletes, I want to just work with some local kids. And then there was like a point when you decided, I'm going to, like make money at this.
Lindsey 07:48
And you still had a lot of baggage with that as most of us do. And we work through that in the program. But you are like, I feel like there was a moment when you decided it. Was that your experience too?
Amy Oliphant 07:58
Yeah, I think it was kind of like, yeah, it was kind of and maybe it was you challenging me, like, either decide it's gonna be a hobby or jumping in with both feet.
Lindsey 08:11
Yeah, and those are two very different mindsets. So yeah. And I decided I wanted that challenge of I wasn't that there's so much more of me to give. And there are so many athletes that need what we do, and I've been given a gift to work with athletes, and to make this, I get to do this every day. I get to be with athletes every day, I want to do it. You know, it's never an I have to now so.
Amy Oliphant 08:42
And I think that's an important point, too, is it's just time to do it. Like I wouldn't be I'd be doing a disservice to myself and to a lot of athletes out there if I didn't jump in with both feet.
Lindsey 08:56
So Nikki, you're, you have like a, you decide to tell me about your sort of evolution. Like, if you remember, like when you decide because I know you wanted to keep your day job. Nikki always has like 10 jobs. We all know that wasn't a pleasant newborn. But you decided to make money. But you were also going to keep your day job. So you were sort of like in this middle ground.
Lindsey 09:14
But do you remember sort of that? I can't remember if you start if you decided you wanted to have your own business or if you were just bring it to your athletes and you decided later do you I don't know if you remember but.
Nikki Dieball 09:25
Actually very vividly. So I've been coaching college volleyball for a while, and I was blessed enough, kind of from a young age that I had some coaches that took us through visualizations. And so I've always been around mindset training to a certain extent as an athlete, and kind of like Amy said, just going through as an athlete, just different adversities and injuries and just knowing what you have to have to be successful.
Nikki Dieball 09:54
I wanted that so bad for my athletes, and my backgrounds in psychology and so I've always had a passion In for the mind and in the mind-body connection. And so kind of like Amy, I was just scouring the internet trying to find something to help create a program for my athletes and not just throwing stuff against a wall and hoping that it would stick but actually having a course of action to bring to my athletes because I know how important it is.
Nikki Dieball 10:22
And so I would say for three or four years, I searched really hard, and I came across you and some of your articles. And just I mean, I found myself daily reading blog posts that you had and trying to create my program out of your, your blog posts. And then when the opportunity came, I subscribed to your newsletters when the opportunity presented itself to get into the MCA course, it was just a no-brainer for me.
Nikki Dieball 10:50
And it was really exciting for me to be able to learn and grow. And I wasn't necessarily interested in starting a business right off the bat. But as I went through the program and saw that kind of like Amy had to work on my own mindset that because I'd love to help people. And making money was something I could do with this too.
Nikki Dieball 11:12
There was tension for me with that. And I had to really work through that it was okay to know that I was still helping people and making money too. And so it started off kind of small for me just one or two clients. And then word of mouth kind of spread. And I did started doing a lot of high school teams.
Nikki Dieball 11:30
And so I do preseason training camps for several high schools around the city that our basketball team brought me in, and then kind of got wins through some of the athletes here on campus at SMU. And so I started working with some pitchers, and some golfers, and it just kind of went bananas from there with different sports.
Nikki Dieball 11:52
Well, I'm a volleyball girl. And so my niche is more geared toward volleyball players. And so when it first started, I just kind of went with whoever would work with me I wanted to work with, but I find myself being more passionate, being more obviously more knowledgeable with volleyball. And so from there, it's grown into, into a pretty good business.
Nikki Dieball 12:16
The second one, Amy says, I can make this as big as I want. I have not felt released from the coaching. But yet I love what I do. I love coaching. So it takes up quite a bit of time when you're on the road recruiting and things like that. So my business is small because, for me, it needs to be I only have so much bandwidth.
Nikki Dieball 12:38
So I've scaled it into what's what's manageable for me to have my job as a coach to be an administrator here on campus, and to have my club that I run and organize and a new mom. So it's, I've been able it's what's nice about it is I can make it what I want it and it works for me and it works for my life.
Nikki Dieball 13:00
And in my downtime when I'm not as busy in the offseason, I can take on more individual clients. And then when I'm in the heat of the season, I can scale it back and still manage to make money and income as kind of a little side hustle. And then like I said when I'm ready to expand I can. And I've been able to work with enough athletes here in the city that I can just pick up the phone and call a few people if I need to and get those clients.
Nikki Dieball 13:28
So it's just like I said, it's kind of just evolving. And I didn't start out to be in the business. But I love it and I'm passionate about it. And I'm really thankful that I made that jump into starting a business.
Lindsey 13:43
How does it feel? This is I think because I think Nikki I think a lot of people, I mean, you both sort of got into it just because you're passionate, which I think a lot of people do.
Lindsey 13:51
I think there's people that come and like know they want to be mindset coach and know they want to make money and they want to know how but I think there's a lot of people that come in and they're passionate about it and they aren't sure maybe if they want to charge but I do know that there's quite a few people that do come in and they sort of want this as their side hustle for now, but they want it also as this thing that they can pour gasoline on it when they want to. And I think both of you have been in that position at certain times.
Lindsey 14:17
But Nikki for you with your day job and coaching and as it is with sometimes people have really uncertain, job security, I don't think you're in that situation. But a lot of times people do with coaching or they worry someday they're gonna get burnout or they're gonna have to move and they just don't aren't gonna want to do it someday. How does it feel for you knowing that you have this business that you have hustled to begin that you can just go to at any point?
Nikki Dieball 14:43
Well, it takes a lot of stress off for sure to know that I have a plan B if I need it, that I could make it as big as I want and get the income that I need to help support my family. So it's just it's in really uncertain times, it's like a just a stress relief knowing that if something happened, but I still have this avenue to create income for my family to live comfortably like we need to. And to still get to help people, which is ultimately what I love to do.
Lindsey 15:18
Yeah. Amazing. Amy so talking about your business like now, right? So you had kind of an interesting story because you were a coach. And then I remember when we decided to stop being a coach because you want to do this full time.
Lindsey 15:33
And that I feel like that was like, your day one of being a mindset coach, you were like, I'm putting the mindset coach hat on. And you've had a lot going on with your kids and all the stuff going on in your family. But where are you at right now? Like, what are your days look like? What does it look like to be a mindset coach? What does that feel like to be that in your life on a day to day basis?
Amy Oliphant 15:55
Yeah every week is a little bit different, which is fun. Like, you know, never one, or every day is a little bit different. Just because, you know, some weeks, the way that my clients structure is some weeks, I have like five clients, and then another week, maybe I have eight of them. And then another week, maybe I have one or two. So it just depends on where what's needed and what the clients need on any given day. But, you know, most days I'm working on, if I don't have clients that day, I'm working on content.
Amy Oliphant 16:28
I'm working on brainstorming ways that I can scale my business. And what you know, doing some mindset work, too, is like, what do I really want? Where do I see myself going? You know, where and what does that look like? So I spend a lot of time doing that, and just kind of brain dumping.
Amy Oliphant 16:50
So like you can see behind me, like just the fun part is I got my first corporate client, so doing like my first corporate workshop with them the second week of January. So that's, it's just an hour presentation. But that's something I wanted to kind of dip my toes into.
Amy Oliphant 17:13
So I've been working on that I'm getting ready to launch a group program for hockey players. So I'm kind of a subscription base thing on a monthly basis. So I'm working on that trying to put the pieces together there. And hopefully, I'm going to do the same thing with swimmers.
Amy Oliphant 17:33
And I've reached out to a couple of high schools to see if I can't come in at the end of the year to work with athletes that are going on to college, to give them some tools to handle what's coming at them.
Amy Oliphant 18:10
So it does take a little bit of being intentional with your time and learning to set the boundaries and figure it out. But it also makes it really fun too.
Lindsey 18:23
Nikki, I'm interested in kind of less business and more like actually working with clients. What kind of things are you seeing? Are you seeing trends? Like you're working with a lot of college and high school athletes? And it sounds like more volleyball, but a wide range? Are you seeing you know, we're post COVID? There's been like all this mental health stuff going on? Like what kind of trends are you seeing?
Lindsey 18:44
And what kind of things do you find yourself really going to, but there are tools that we talked about in the in the certification or tools that you use, like what's going on with your client work?
Nikki Dieball 18:54
I'm seeing a ton of confidence issues. That was before COVID. But I think they're just so overwhelmed with things right now just schedules and pressure of performing and pressure of performing in the classroom on the court.
Nikki Dieball 19:10
And so we do a lot of brain dumping, we do a lot of scheduling, I find that a lot of especially our college kids come in and are freshmen I have met with every one of our freshmen this year, don't understand time management and how stressful not prioritizing things are.
Nikki Dieball 19:28
So we actually spend a lot of time on the mindset of creating attentional space and for them to just be be still and be present with their own thoughts outside of the classroom outside of volleyball and just giving them space to be and I've been finding that's really uncomfortable for most of them to have that space where they're just still. So we've been working a ton on that and just finding their competence through preparation.
Nikki Dieball 19:59
Just So many of them are outcome based in multiple facets of their life. And so we're learning how to reframe things, and how to win without a scoreboard or win without a stat. And trying to find that and that internal sense of confidence and motivation for them. So there's just a few things that were doing over and over.
Lindsey 20:22
I just keep, like thinking of like, how often like, I think people that aren't in the mindset coaching world may be surprised that like, You're talking too much about time and time management.
Lindsey 20:31
But as we all talk about so much like time is a mindset issue. And like, how few people actually learn these things at a young age thought managed by management, like emotional management, like, and that is the word the good work that you're doing.
Lindsey 20:47
I mean, I think, you know, we're all so passionate about this, but how does this like being able to see that happening in your life in front of you, with these young athletes? How is that fueling you, in your business? And to make more money? Like, are those two things like they used to be probably kind of opposite in your mind?
Lindsey 21:06
Like, are you able to see that and get that motivate you to make more money and grow your business? Like, how does that play out in your, in your mind?
Nikki Dieball 21:13
Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's just what we're doing is coaching, but coaching mindset stuff, but in my passion for coaching on the court, to see the light bulb go off, is extra fuel for my fire.
Nikki Dieball 21:28
So the same is true when I see someone get the concept, or feel the success or come in, where they've been in my office on Monday crying, and two weeks later, after we've done some work come in with a smile on their face, and they're not ready to go home.
Nikki Dieball 21:43
So to see that kind of success for them, and hope, I think that's the big thing for me to see someone who feels like they are at rock bottom, with no hope at all, to be able to work through some of this stuff and feel weight lifted and feel hope and inspired and empowered to move forward with the passion that they have. It just it ignites me too.
Nikki Dieball 22:07
And then from a financial sense. I know more people need what we have. And there's not enough people like us to go out and help everybody. And so what we do is so necessary, and it transcends anything that they would ever do on the floor what we do goes far beyond and that's, you know, it's what I tell parents all the time, the work that we do, it can't help but bleed over into every aspect of their life.
Nikki Dieball 22:39
So we're working on maybe volleyball stuff, and it goes into the classroom, and it goes into relationships, and it can't help but do that. So to know that there are still so many people out there that need this, and to see the success that my current clients have been players have. It just feeds my passion to go out and help more people.
Lindsey 23:03
And good work in the world Nikki.
Lindsey 23:04
Amy be back to you on, I think I imagine that people listening to this, are trying to see themselves in you guys. And a lot of our probably coaches and a lot of them are passionate about mindset coaching, as we talked about before, I'm interested in many people come to the certification, including yourselves, that have a lot of knowledge about mindset, whether that's their personal experience as an athlete, as a coach, that read a lot, they read my blogs, and they're sponges, as Nicky said, How has your evolution in the organization of your content of all the things you've learned? How has that evolved? Over the last four years or so Nikki or Amy and then asked you as well, Nikki?
Lindsey 23:51
And how does that help you deliver content in a way that is that maybe feels better to you, reaches the mark, so to speak, how was your content evolve and continue to evolve?
Amy Oliphant 24:06
Oh, good question. Yeah, I think you know, prior to like, making it my business, you'd scour the internet and read books, and you'll find tidbits here and there. And honestly, like, I never thought about using that like what I was learning through that it was just for personal use to like, Oh, that's good for ally, who's struggling with confidence, though, and that's good for Tom over there who seems to hit rock bottom and doesn't know what to do. And so it was, I just take these little tidbits and apply it to certain people, but now I'm taking this I am still a sponge.
Amy Oliphant 24:55
But I have a better way of organizing it like I use it. Like when I see something I'm Like, Oh, I've got a notebook. Like I've got a spreadsheet, actually where I'm like, this is a great idea this could apply to this. And then I take it and I save it in order to create content, some doubt somewhere down the road. Right?
Lindsey 25:12
Do you have structure, what you're teaching. I mean, we obviously go through some of that in the certification and make it your own. Do you have, a process?
Amy Oliphant 25:21
Yes. So probably. So you know, I have this.
Amy Oliphant 25:25
So how it's evolved? I'm glad you mentioned that is, it's kind of like a mental performance roadmap that I talked about, right? So yeah, we start with there may be like eight different steps. And, originally, I designed it to go from A to B to C to D to E to F.
Amy Oliphant 25:45
But now, what I'm realizing is that, and I think I knew this before, it wasn't, but everybody's a little bit different. So instead of like sticking to that huge structure, I have this, I want to hit every part of that roadmap that I have, but it's more like Frogger, right with each client.
Amy Oliphant 26:03
So it's like, alright, this person, this particular client needs, we need to talk about negative self talk here, maybe this particular client, we need to talk about belief systems, but it's this whole, we talk about awareness, and then we go to self talk.
Amy Oliphant 26:20
And then we go to belief systems, and goal setting, and time management. And so those are all the building blocks of the program that I offer the athletes. So that that's probably definitely where I've evolved the most lately. And it's just been helpful to have that, to kind of have that roadmap and choose.
Lindsey 26:44
Yeah, that's awesome. What about you, Nikki, how is your sort of process evolved over the, since you've started the certification?
Nikki Dieball 26:52
I think I used to be very cookie cutter. And I still have the same kind of general topics that I go through with, with a client.
Nikki Dieball 27:04
And I used to just kind of just go very, down the same road. So I still have structure, which is, which has been helpful I have I've got a very structured program. But it's, it's very tailored to each person.
Nikki Dieball 27:24
And didn't necessarily do that when I first started off, I wasn't confident enough in myself when I very first started to be able to branch off and unscripted, essentially. So while they're still structured, I feel good enough about where I am, in my knowledge of mental training and what they need that I can now kind of go off and tailor it to make it more athlete-specific, client specific as we go.
Nikki Dieball 27:51
So kind of like Amy said, I pieced together things. And now I've kind of taken things that I've learned from you. Things that I've learned from other people and kind of created my own. Often that what feels authentic for me authentic system of how I do things.
Lindsey 28:10
What are the top one or you know, two or three tools that you guys teach, like, all the time.
Nikki Dieball 28:15
A sacred tool, hands down. And it's usually that's usually for my clients and my athletes here, on our team, their hands on their favorite thing that we use, it's so quick, it's so accessible. It's, it can change things for them in an instant. And they love it, because it's so concrete. And it's not fluff. It's actionable immediately. So that for sure.
Lindsey 28:45
For anybody's listening, if you want the RMSD critical, go ahead.
Nikki Dieball 28:51
Breathing as crazy as it sounds, but just really realizing what that breath does for you and the control that you have as you breath. So use a lot of breathing stuff, a secret tool, and then of course braver with everybody.
Lindsey 29:08
Well that in the show notes too, get your visualization exercise that for those of you that don't know, are you doing guided visualizations?
Amy Oliphant 29:16
Yes.
Lindsey 29:18
Because I remember when you were recording, I was like she's got a great voice for visualizations. That's awesome. We teach that in the certification too.
Lindsey 29:24
All right, Nikki, Amy What about you? What are your top two or three tools that you go to for your clients?
Amy Oliphant 29:29
Definitely the mistake ritual. Definitely visualizations, but almost with every client, we start off with awareness, kind of when we've talked about that evolution. The one thing that I've really zeroed in on is that I'm amazed at how many athletes have no idea what they're thinking. Right. So like, I believe strongly, we can't use the mistake ritual and the reset word until you're aware of what you're doing.
Amy Oliphant 29:59
So I always start them off with this awareness, I send them home with a reflection lock. So after every practice, they have to write down three to five things that went through their heads positive or negative. And then we come back, and then they come back. And we work on reframing them, and we, and that awareness piece.
Amy Oliphant 30:17
So then once they become aware of when those thoughts start to come in, then they're finding that reset word is and the mistake of ritual is much easier for them to create a habit using it. And it's amazing, like most of the athletes that come to me, they're like, Oh, my God, I had no idea that those were the things that I was saying to myself, I'd be like, Well, would you say those to your best friends?
Amy Oliphant 30:39
Like No way? And just flipping that switch and teaching them how to reframe those thoughts? Like I've had athlete after athlete say that's been the biggest difference for them is being able to reframe those negative thoughts that they had no idea they were having and had no idea how that was affecting them. So then I kind of base the visualizations off of that, you know, I base like I said, that mistake ritual and reset where it off of that.
Amy Oliphant 31:10
And then we do a lot since I work with a lot of hockey players, that intensity level, that ideal intensity level, and the inverted U theory is big with them. It's kind of a rah rah, like, you know, get up and go like, you know, tough guys sport, and a lot of them are realizing that they're just going out there with way too much. And once they can dial it down.
Lindsey 31:32
Oh, man, these are all like, like every single tool you both that you talked about. I'm like, like, though, and I think that's where like, I think about and I know you guys feel this way too, like, think about if one of your athletes or one of those tools, they could change their entire experience in sports. And of course, they would take that to their life.
Lindsey 31:55
And you're teaching a multiple but I mean, literally one of those can be a no pun intended, but a game changer for them.
Amy Oliphant 32:04
Yeah, for sure.
Lindsey 32:05
What's your favorite visualization? Do you guys use any scripts or anything? metaphors? What which one? You guys, you have to go choose?
Amy Oliphant 32:12
My clients love like, I do a version of the highlight reel. Digitalization with them. And they they love that they love using that before competition, because...
Lindsey 32:25
You customize it for them based on what they tell you.
Amy Oliphant 32:28
Yes, yeah. Yeah.
Lindsey 32:30
That's great.
Nikki Dieball 32:33
I do something similar, but I really love to just kind of go off the grid and have them journal for me and then be pull out in the rows, some questions at them may pull out their words and their experiences and create something brand new for them. I love the creativity that comes along with that.
Nikki Dieball 32:53
So that's one thing that I loved about learning how to administer visualizations. And so yes, I use some of the scripts. I like the backpack. But I like to create my own it's, it keeps things new and fresh for me too. But it's so personal to my client.
Lindsey 33:13
Well, I think like in the performance visualization specialist stuff, we teach that level four of being fully customizable, unique metaphors. Not everybody does that. But like, if you if you can, and you like it like it is a very rewarding way. And then these people have these data visualizations, that's just for them.
Lindsey 33:31
It's not for no one else in the world. It's a pretty cool experience. And I think you could charge pretty good for that too, because it is unique experience. What's next? I have two or two final questions. What is next for you? Amy it business wise, like what's going on? What's the next?
Amy Oliphant 33:48
Yeah, so like I said earlier, I'm getting ready to hopefully, that hopefully I am to launch this
Lindsey 33:55
Oh, you're going to.
Amy Oliphant 33:58
To launch this group? This group hockey program. So I've been fortunate enough to pair up with a hockey advising group that is very interested in doing like a beta for me, so.
Lindsey 34:12
I know you're gonna raise the price. But what's your what? How long is the program? How much you can charge?
Lindsey 34:18
You workshopping this in January, I'm sure. So I will hold you to it. But just an idea of what you thought.
Amy Oliphant 34:25
So my grand plan is that it's going to be a monthly subscription. You know, at least they need to commit to at least three months. We'll do one live zoom call a month. I'll give them tidbits. We'll have a Facebook group. Give them 15 to 30 minute one on one call a month.
Amy Oliphant 34:46
And I'm going to I'm thinking about probably going to be around $300 a month.
Lindsey 34:52
And what is your three months? One on one. Go for?
Amy Oliphant 34:57
Like three months one on one right now is 2400.
Lindsey 35:02
Okay, I'm just trying to give people an idea of what mindset coaches are making. And of course you would be, would probably be raising those prices January release in 2023. But I just want to give people an idea of what mindset coaches are making. Nikki, what about you? Where are you going, and maybe it's a little bit about some of your programs and what they cost right now.
Nikki Dieball 35:23
I have one that I'm really excited about. I don't have it all together yet. So I couldn't tell you pricing on it. But I am working on developing a program for recruitable athletes that are wanting to go to the next level. So just the whole mindset behind recruiting and what that takes, and because there's a lot of pressure in that, and you hear no more than you hear yes.
Nikki Dieball 35:52
And how do you handle that. And so it's something I have been thinking about and brainstorming about. So that's kind of where I'm wanting to go and create a monthly program, similar to what Amy's doing. I've done a monthly program, kind of like a subscription membership thing.
Nikki Dieball 36:09
And so very, very similar structure to what Amy had in same pricing. 300 a month for that. Yeah. My one-on-one for three months right now is 1500. And I know you're gonna tell me that it's time though by bit. So I would say that's one thing you're always really good about is not letting my sell myself too short.
Nikki Dieball 36:32
So yeah. And then just continuing to evolve the program that I have with my with my club kids.
Lindsey 36:41
Yeah. Well, we got lots of stuff to workshop and mastermind in 2023. Now that I know all that All right, great, guys. Tell me where, our last question. And this is, where are you? From your own mindset? And where are you going? What are you working on? What kind of tools are you using? Daily or, kind of what's fitting in for you, as a human being that works on their own mindset? Amy go first, if you will.
Amy Oliphant 37:10
Yeah, I'm making it a habit of kind of doing daily check ins. So Sunday comes around I brained up for the week, I set my schedule, but part of that is then the next, you know, and then reevaluating each day.
Amy Oliphant 37:26
Again, it's all about trying to become very more much more intentional, with my time, there's some mindfulness, some breathing, I feel very similar to the braver kind of take some time, couple minutes every morning just to breathe and reset and, and get going.
Amy Oliphant 37:44
So that's the biggest thing for me is setting those boundaries, always has been so. So by brain dumping, and really like being down to like, even, like, first thing on the list is to make a list like down to the specifics, right? Like just the more intentional I can be. It sounds really structured. But the reality is it isn't it but it gives me confidence. And it keeps me moving forward and gets me started on the right foot every day if I can do that.
Lindsey 38:15
Well, I mean, that's what we've been counted on in the mindset coaching collective, the monthly training, for those of you who don't know, which I don't know, if he came to last, I don't think he came to last. That's what we talked about is like that daily practice of, we have to we have to keep working on this stuff. And I have to constantly remind myself, so I'm in the same boat.
Amy Oliphant 38:33
Well I feel it. Like if I get off track, like if I've had a week of like, where it's just everything's been crazy, or I've been traveling, for example, or I get sick. Like, it's like complete chaos. My brain feels like chaos.
Lindsey 38:49
Yeah, awesome. Good. We're all on together. Nikki how about you?
Nikki Dieball 38:53
I think I'm in a unique situation being having a two month old and a 10 year old. So I'm practicing all the things in the Mom Brain is real thing. So I'm really paying attention to my energy and being sleep deprived, but still trying to be present for my 10 year old and not totally consumed by my two month old.
Nikki Dieball 39:16
I'm really trying to pay attention to those things that give me energy because I don't have a ton of it right now. Not sleeping much. And really paying attention to my mindset of not being overwhelmed by all the things I have to do but being really, really present for my family.
Nikki Dieball 39:35
And kind of like Amy said just prioritizing and listing I'm a big Lister helps me especially being kind of forgetful right now with everything to try to keep me organized and keep my time management on, on schedule so that I am helping keep myself as low stress as possible.
Lindsey 39:56
Yeah, I mean, it's a good reminder. Well, like we as my inset coaches practice this stuff, right? We keep, we always talk about this, but it is so crucial. And I mean, I do it too, I have to remind myself to do The Daily Beast, I have to remind myself to do the braver and remind myself that like, oh, that's just a fact.
Lindsey 40:14
You know, and that's the cool thing is we get to do this, and then it shows up in our business, like, we get to actually make money doing this, which is a pretty cool thing.
Lindsey 40:23
So, all right, we're launching the certification soon. I know, you guys have also been coaches and captains in the program, I hope that you'll come back for that. In this next certification. Final thoughts for anybody considering the certification, Amy?
Amy Oliphant 40:39
I was just gonna say that, if you have any intention, and it sounds like something that's, that you want to do to jump right in that it's probably, I wouldn't be where I'm at without it. It's a great source of support. It's a great, the people that come through it, are extremely talented and smart.
Amy Oliphant 41:05
So not only do you get to feed off of Lindsey, but usually like, not usually all the time, the people in the group are just amazing people themselves that people that are as passionate about it as as you might be.
Amy Oliphant 41:19
And it's such a great learning and learning environment that challenges you, and in a good way and build your confidence. It's amazing. So I also wanted to say too, is like, I was just thinking about it. In terms of I got I had a client call today. And at the end he he's like, Hey, I just want to tell you, thank you so much.
Amy Oliphant 41:46
I wouldn't be where I am today. If it weren't for you, like all the stuff you've taught me like, the routines and intensity levels and visualizations, and staying in the game, and he's like, I had no idea how much the mental piece was missing until I did it. And I'm in such like, this is just fun now.
Amy Oliphant 42:09
So I guess I'm saying that story because like, if that's the impact that you want to have on people and athletes, then go for it. I mean, there's nothing better than feeling like you've reached an athlete.
Lindsey 42:22
Yeah. Oh my god, I just got goosebumps, like the idea of someone going from a hating their sport to loving your sport like I'm in I'll do whatever to help them do that. Like that is so so cool. All right, Nikki, what about you?
Nikki Dieball 42:33
Yeah, I think all of us that are coaches or have been athletes, we've we love to be coached, we thrive in that. And I know that was something I was missing was, I was passionate, but I didn't have a coach to push and to teach. And that's one thing that I loved so much about it.
Nikki Dieball 42:51
And to the cool thing Amy talked about community, it's such a diverse group, every session, it's just a you have people that maybe already have a business and they're wanting to go farther with it, you have people that have never done it before and are interested in it.
Nikki Dieball 43:07
And so you're gonna take this journey with so many different awesome people and the relationships that you build, the things that you learn, not only from Lindsey, and the curriculum, but just through your peers through the program. It's been really cool, because I've stayed connected with several people that were in my initial core cohort.
Nikki Dieball 43:27
And we bounce ideas off of each other or just pass clients to one another, are our own children to one another, which is really cool. But it's just a very unique and cool opportunity to be a part of, that you're always going to be connected with.
Nikki Dieball 43:45
And like Amy said, the impact that we have, and the seeds that we plant and help these people find these clients find impact them even far beyond years down the road with families and things like that. And so to know that we have the ability and the honor to do that with others. It's just it's pretty priceless opportunity.
Lindsey 44:11
Awesome. I'm gonna do, you guys are the best. I'm so proud of your progress. And I you know, the passion that you guys bring to your businesses and your family and your communities and your teams. And as mindset coaches is something to be admired for sure. And I'm just I love you know, we get to talk I get to see you guys all the time, but to to really hear the details of you working with your clients is pretty cool.
Lindsey 44:33
So thank you for sharing that with our community and for all your involvement with performance in the Mindset Coach Academy. guys have a great day and we will talk to you soon.
Lindsey 44:44
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Lindsey 44:57
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Lindsey 45:17
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Lindsey 45:39
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